Try Shift-Y.

Maybe your keyboard layout is american.

Quote from logitekg25 :

are you saying i am fast in real life

Your bus driver says, he drives every day at the limit, so : Yes you are fast !

Quote from hyntty :

I can't be the only person the installer didn't work for?

And fine, since every single page of the installation program is either grammatically wrong or just plainly wrong, here:

If you are not able to translate your own native language, you try maybe another one ? English or chinese?

Tällä sivulla sinun tulee valita kansio missä Live for Speed sijaitsee.
To choose the Lfs folder, for the installation is useless for you ?
I get it ,why you are the only person the installer didn't work for

Quote :

What would be helpful is if you quoted the poorly translated lines and suggested an alternative.

Last edited by Ger Roady, Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:28.

Scawen would probably say "
I think it should be corrected, but mijn Nederlands is niet goed.

Anyway nice from you that you try to help.

I suspect the percent would be the same.

Countdown !!! Here <---




For the guys who have missed it

cough * "New Year?" *cough

Smoke and smell dosn't tell they are dead. That only tells they are in higher stress. The only parts of the brake that change her condition due to higher temperature are the pads and the brake fluid, what yields to higher brake distance. Change them before will avoid the "dead".

Quote from ORION :

New content could be made available to the users using micro payment (like, one car for 1€, a tarck for 5€ etc.),

Not enough content in I-racing to chuck away your money ?

Quote from DoC_uk :

What sim racing need is a 'USB hurt machine' .. when you crash ..IT HURTS! ...

It only needs a long requested radiator. Maybe with a X% side damage factor.

Quote from Scawen :

. Also things like that little puff of smoke that comes out from a hot piece of tyre each time it hits the road - that has no place in the new LFS physics.

I think it is unrealistic at all. Never saw this smoke, except I was standing with both feets on the brake , in real Life ...or the tyre was burning

Last edited by Ger Roady, Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:57.

Maybe it is wise to put the whole thread to general discussion and create a new test patch thread ?

Maybe it is allowed to post a old quote with one little correction. Otherwise please delete it. Should be sticky in my opinion

Quote :

Simply, the criticisms of LFS development stated a few posts back are just wrong and displaying a lack of understanding, and failure to see the big picture. Or if you wish, you may interpret that as my failure to explain to you what I'm doing every step of the way. But seriously, my job is not to explain to you every step of LFS development and every plan I have for it, while they run through my head. My job is to get LFS done.

It was actually the two Vista compatibility issues (unlocking and sound) and the arrival of the G25 wheel that got me onto this series of test patches. It's very important, with more and more people getting Vista, and us receiving several technical support emails "I can't unlock on Vista" and so on, for LFS to work on Vista. Also we need that improved controller support to be readily available to new users. Also I've had enough of "How do I install a patch, I've downloaded it and LFS doesn't work any more" so I've been working on and nearly finished the auto updater. And that means, Patch V needs to go on the main site. And guess what - it should not go up there completely bug ridden and full of hundreds of small issues that have been waiting a long time to be fixed. But it should be compatible, I need to do some months of incompatible work, which I have outlined elsewhere and won't go into here. And there's no point delaying the compatible fixes, leaving the much poorer version U up there when we are so close to V.

The compatible fixes and improvements are totally necessary. The irritated commentators on this thread have no idea how much reworking and improving goes on inside the program while I'm on a roll. Also they don't understand how much simply MUST be done, outside the core physics, to keep the program on track. It does actually take more time than the core itself. If a great majority of the time was spent on the core alone, we would have a physically accurate, but totally unusable simulator that attracted no more than the absolute hardcore simmer. And we'd be poor and have to give up LFS and go and get a job!

This work NEEDS to be done. It's nothing different from any time in the past. A lot of compatible fixes, tested thoroughly by the community, followed by an apparently quiet period while we work on incompatible things which cannot be tested by the community because every day's test patch is incompatible, which would causing hotlap and online madness. And in that apparently quiet periiod there will be a new post each week "Where are the devs gone" and "They've taken our money and run" and "The devs owe it to us to write a detailed progress report each week" etc, etc... you know how it goes by now.

Anyway, I'm very happy with these improvements, I'm sort of embarassed now by version U and it's flaws and imcompatibilities, the visible things and the internal messes it contains that I have sorted out. I'm itching to get that version V up there but it needs the auto-updater finished (a couple more days work) and the new (minor) sound updates (a few more days work - still awaiting some longer work in the future). Nearly every one of these test patches has had some VITAL fixes, along with a few irritations fixed and some minor or major features. It really is not a bad thing for LFS, these compatible things that have been done, bringing us so much closer to a final S3 (<-correction) that can be released, when the other craved updates are completed.

It's a little sad the lack of trust displayed in those preceding posts. The belief that something has gone wrong inside our heads, that the developers who once knew how to develop, have changed mentally in some way, are hiding away in a hole, scared to develop anything but just scratching at the surface. It's quite a pathetic belief in fact, when the truth is Eric's there working on things that will improve LFS a lot amd I am working 10 hour days getting so much done, as fast as possible to get a stable version up there ready for the approaching silent period of core development.

It's going so well, and as described elsewhere our lives have been sorted out a lot this year helped by the S2 success, after neglecting ourselves for years, due to LFS development. It would be nice if the off topic commentators could just be happy about it and have some faith in the simple understanding that we developers who got it this far, and have devoted so much of our lives to this, probably want to take it to the next stage as well!

Last edited by Ger Roady, Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:32.

Quote from Scawen :

I have a good feeling too. And that is - we'll soon have an installer.

Welcome to the new developer

Quote from Gudowski :

Scawen, maybe lets work on some kind of Launcher when user can check did ons erver is some new:

[] Stable Release/Update
[] Test Patch

when user can choose what he want to check did its updated and he will choose then which he want to download

good or bad idea?

There is something like that . It is called multiplayer connection list and test patch forum, so i don't see a need for this. My opinion.

Quote from Scawen :

- Multiple host passwords are now stored for local network hosts (by ip and port)
report by adamshl : http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1315093#post1315093

Tested with 3 server and works perfect.

Edith says:

Quote from AndroidXP :

Used for distance measurement. Has been implemented since... ages.

Quote from Kid222 :

I guess you can measure distance with this... but don't know exactly how. It's been there ever since and even longer.

Quote from morpha :

You place the "pole" and it'll show the distance from that one to the one "in your hand" (attached to the cursor).

Thanks for clarification. So many years and still something new

Last edited by Ger Roady, Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:06.

Quote from Scawen :

You can have multiple hosts .... .... To see if the password is always updated as expected.

I will try to test this.
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In Shift-U mode i pressed "D" and this came out. What is this ?

Quote from Scawen :

- Could not join S1 or S2 host after unlocking from Multiplayer screen
report by alxf1 : http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1315322#post1315322

Tested again. Still seems to be working now.

Quote from Scawen :

- Multiple host passwords are now stored for local network hosts (by ip and port)
report by adamshl : http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1315093#post1315093

Afaik nobody tested this till now !? Due to lack of multiple Hosts it is not testable for "normal" user

Ok . Ready for physic stuff

Edit : No problem to patch, back to Z27 !

Last edited by Ger Roady, Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:18.

Quote from Ger Roady :

"LFS wird auf den Demo Inhalt begrenzt sein ! "

In English " LFS will be limited to the Demo Content "

Maybe it is only the english original that is wrong

"LFS wird auf den Demo Inhalt begrenzt sein ! "

In English " LFS will be limited to the Demo Content "

Last edited by Ger Roady, Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:38.

Quote from Scawen :

- Could not join S1 or S2 host after unlocking from Multiplayer screen
report by alxf1 : http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1315322#post1315322

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Ok tested and seems to be fixed

Quote from morpha :

"Diese Live for Speed Installation wird auf den Inhalt der Demoversion beschränkt!" would be the most accurate I can think of.

+1

Last edited by Ger Roady, Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:12.

Hmm in German it says " Only one unlock per week possible !

In English it says " Only demo content will be avaible !

Quote from Scawen :

- Could not join S1 or S2 host after unlocking from Multiplayer screen
report by alxf1 : http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1315322#post1315322

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I am a little scared to lock my lfs because of the limited amount of unlocks.